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new jersey governor chris christie is asking for 100% reimbursement from the federal government for the costs of emergency response the state faced in the wake of hurricane sandy. christie said in a letter to fema that the economic damage in his state could top $40 billion. he also plans to couple to washington to press his case later this week. both christie and new york governor andrew cuomo are asking for full compensation for their state's efforts. the white house is also expected to ask for more money. >>> and just one month after the election, mitt romney is returning to the business world. the former republican presidential nominee rejoined the board of the u.s. hotel company marriott international. romney served on the marriott board for over a decade stepping down in 2002 before becoming governor of massachusetts and again in 2011 when he launched his second presidential bid. the romney and marriott families have been close friends for generations. romney even named jay, willard marriott, the founder of the company. >>> and returning to health news now. you'll be interested in
new jersey governor chris christie is asking for 100% reimbursement from the federal government for the costs of emergency response the state faced in the wake of hurricane sandy. christie said in a letter to fema that the economic damage in his state could top $40 billion. he also plans to couple to washington to press his case later this week. both christie and new york governor andrew cuomo are asking for full compensation for their state's efforts. the white house is also expected to ask...
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keeping the government out of private lives. so there are already people who is been won over on that argument. as for the other, i think it's a little unfair to tell people for whom they're religious points of view might inform that decision that they're intolerant, that they're terrible people. they can have those points of view, but as a party, i think the gop needs to get a little bit more tolerant about those issues as a big tent party. not personally. you can personally disagree with gay marriage if you want. and by the way there are plenty of democrats who for religious reasons don't personally agree with gay marriage. but, yeah, i think the gop needs to move sort of beyond those intolerance arguments and talk about other things. >> a major sticking point for young voters. >> absolutely. up next, filibuster reform. we know it doesn't sound exiting, but with southern jimmy williams, even that can be fun. let the good times roll. melons!!! oh yeah!! well that was uncalled for. folks who save hundreds of dollars switching to
keeping the government out of private lives. so there are already people who is been won over on that argument. as for the other, i think it's a little unfair to tell people for whom they're religious points of view might inform that decision that they're intolerant, that they're terrible people. they can have those points of view, but as a party, i think the gop needs to get a little bit more tolerant about those issues as a big tent party. not personally. you can personally disagree with gay...
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the people running the government. the politicians. good politicians don't take their countries off of cliffs. "the ed show" starts right now. >>> good evening, americans. welcome to "the ed show" live from washington, d.c. tonight, breaking news from the nation's capital. house democrats are turning the screws on house speaker bain. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >> unfortunately, the speaker's proposal is still out of balance. >> the president responds to john boehner, but democratic leader nancy pelosi has a plan to get around the speaker. tonight, leader pelosi joins me for an exclusive interview. >>> senator john kerry like you have never seen him before. the statesman from massachusetts scolds the radical right after senate republicans block a u.n. treaty on rights for the disabled because they are concerned about home schooling. you don't want to miss this tape. >>> plus my interview with ohio senator sherrod brown on what looks like a massive win for progressives and elizabeth warren. >>> then senator debbi stabenow
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also i think, you know, it takes away the claim that the federal government is u surping health care. states forfeited their option to do something. i also think we're going to have an interesting set of experiments. california, colorado, maryland and other states that are going to do this well will show the country. can you save money? can you improve health outcomes? can you give people options they like? i would look to those particular states because they are really working on developing an exchange, running it well, the case of colorado interestingly enough, it's pretty bipartisan. you have people who want to make it work on both sides of the aisle. these could shame other states to come in. i also think we should be honest. out of 2014, there may be some bumps in the road. but this is for the long haul. out of the gate, it may not be perfect. but lots of software is not perfect out of gate, but we use it and love it and it helps us. the same is going to be true here. it's going to help millions of people get better insurance products that are cheaper. >> thanks for coming in. >>
also i think, you know, it takes away the claim that the federal government is u surping health care. states forfeited their option to do something. i also think we're going to have an interesting set of experiments. california, colorado, maryland and other states that are going to do this well will show the country. can you save money? can you improve health outcomes? can you give people options they like? i would look to those particular states because they are really working on developing an...
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that too many people want things from government. but i'm still convinced that the overwhelming majority of our people, they just want what my parents had -- a chance. >> i'm joined by congresswoman debbie wasserman schultz tonight, of florida, chairwoman of the dnc. great to have you with us, congresswoman. >> great to be with you, ed, thank. >> now, those are two key players there on the republican party. one was on the ticket, the other was a florida senator. what do you make of this about-face and philosophical change and approach to the middle class. you buying it? >> well, it's not an about-face, not by a long shot. there is not much compassion in either of those conservatives. and you know, i think what mr. ryan and mr. rubio must think is, you know, that movie, "men in black"? there have been three "men in black" movies, and i think one of the coolest things about that movie that most people remember is that little device that erases people's memories. well, i think that paul ryan and marco rubio must believe that all america
that too many people want things from government. but i'm still convinced that the overwhelming majority of our people, they just want what my parents had -- a chance. >> i'm joined by congresswoman debbie wasserman schultz tonight, of florida, chairwoman of the dnc. great to have you with us, congresswoman. >> great to be with you, ed, thank. >> now, those are two key players there on the republican party. one was on the ticket, the other was a florida senator. what do you...
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and they understand that what's being threatened is their ability to govern. they have priorities they have to get through. so he's got to actually exert a firmer hand. we're starting to see that with boehner. but howard is right. mcconnell has an election at stake. >> he hired rand paul's campaign manager to be his campaign manager in the upcoming race. >> i look at the democrats of this. the veterans of the senate, the old guard, the statesman. there was still respect available. it just seems lost today. >> you make a very important point. it's true of the baby boom generation. very few of them have the bonding national experience of being in the army.
and they understand that what's being threatened is their ability to govern. they have priorities they have to get through. so he's got to actually exert a firmer hand. we're starting to see that with boehner. but howard is right. mcconnell has an election at stake. >> he hired rand paul's campaign manager to be his campaign manager in the upcoming race. >> i look at the democrats of this. the veterans of the senate, the old guard, the statesman. there was still respect available....
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at the same time, new government figures show that more than 53,000 undocumented immigrants have been approved to stay in the country under president obama's new immigration policy. the deferred action for childhood arrivals initiative launched in august halts the depotatid deportation of some undocumented immigrants brought to the u.s. as children. joining me, one of the first to benefit from the new policy, and telemundo's jose diaz belart. good to see both of you. the president announced the program earlier this year. how is it being rolled out, and who qualifies? >> well, okay. first of all, it's only a two-year reprieve from possible deportation. this is not a permanent solution, this is just a two-year reprieve. and it could benefit up to 1.2 million young people like carla. to be able to qualify, you have to have -- you're under 31 years of age by june of this year. you have to have lived in this country for at least five years, gotten to the united states before you were 16 years of age. and of course, not have any kind of record, criminal record. gone to high school or going
at the same time, new government figures show that more than 53,000 undocumented immigrants have been approved to stay in the country under president obama's new immigration policy. the deferred action for childhood arrivals initiative launched in august halts the depotatid deportation of some undocumented immigrants brought to the u.s. as children. joining me, one of the first to benefit from the new policy, and telemundo's jose diaz belart. good to see both of you. the president announced the...
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it wasn't set up to have the federal government step in and do this. they were trying to give the states more control. an open question is, if these governors stay recalcitrant, are they essentially going to set the system up to fail and they get what they want. >> that seems to be whether -- >> setting up exchanges sort of dismantle obama care or difficult to access it or ejecting the expansion, there has to be some -- the question is how much they're held accountable by their constits wents. >> this goes to a cynicism grover referred to in his interview with you where he said well, people think that if we raise taxes on the wealthy, eventually we'll result in higher taxes for them. and part of the idea here is, people think if we can challenge this form of health care, distributed as ezra reported with very, very good mar gyps for these states -- margins from these states from the fed we can undermine the system. it's a deeply cynical view of how government benefits work and share the sacrifice. it can work in the short term because i don't know that
it wasn't set up to have the federal government step in and do this. they were trying to give the states more control. an open question is, if these governors stay recalcitrant, are they essentially going to set the system up to fail and they get what they want. >> that seems to be whether -- >> setting up exchanges sort of dismantle obama care or difficult to access it or ejecting the expansion, there has to be some -- the question is how much they're held accountable by their...
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that's why they're willing to shut down the government. they're not taking an oath to the constitution of the united states but an oath to grover norquist. if you do things like that you shouldn't have the right to try to continue to shut down the government and use the debt ceiling as a weapon. >> finally, congressman, there are reports the president may ask congress for $50 billion for hurricane sandy, you know, to cover costs of relief and rebuilding. do you expect that to even be held hostage as well by region sn -- republicans? >> yes, do i. >> so no agreement on fiscal cliff, no agreement on debt ceiling, no agreement on this either? >> that's because they are obstructionists. they've turned the win into a partisan political instrument. they've turned the weather into a partisan political instrument. we have a solution to thisç 37e have introduced a discharge petition. we think that we shouldn't be holding the middle class hostage. everyone agrees the first $250,000 in income should receive a tax increase. i believe it should be hi
that's why they're willing to shut down the government. they're not taking an oath to the constitution of the united states but an oath to grover norquist. if you do things like that you shouldn't have the right to try to continue to shut down the government and use the debt ceiling as a weapon. >> finally, congressman, there are reports the president may ask congress for $50 billion for hurricane sandy, you know, to cover costs of relief and rebuilding. do you expect that to even be held...
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there are people who can talk about republican governance and why it's better and why we should lean towards that but until you have that, it's tough to rise to the level of the gravitas of those in the white house. this whole notion that we're some discome bob lated party, we took it on the election and there will be scrambling around after a big loss like that. but we've got some voices out there and we'll see as we get closer and closer to it, we'll see who is running the show and i'm sure there will be new fresh faces out there and some of the old folks as welcoming out and talking about republican governance and fighting for lower ta lower taxes and less spending. >> here is harry reid's comeback. >> there's some confusion about who is the quarterback. of course, that is quite common when you don't have the white house. but there's no doubt who the quarterback is on the democratic side. the quarterback is the president of the united states. and unfortunately he keeps throwing interceptions. and we're moving backward and backward and backward towards the goal line. >> well, morri
there are people who can talk about republican governance and why it's better and why we should lean towards that but until you have that, it's tough to rise to the level of the gravitas of those in the white house. this whole notion that we're some discome bob lated party, we took it on the election and there will be scrambling around after a big loss like that. but we've got some voices out there and we'll see as we get closer and closer to it, we'll see who is running the show and i'm sure...
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. >> an added wrinkle to the fiscal cliff talks is the debt ceiling, with the government on pace to reach its borrowing limit early next year. the white house stated its position on the 14th amendment, which some theory rise is a way for the president to raise the debt limit independently, should republicans attempt to use it as a negotiating tool. >> i can say that this administration does not believe that the 14th amendment gives the president the power to ignore the debt ceiling, period. >> the fiscal cliff talks reached a new low yesterday when, somehow, the new york jets got dragged into it on the senate floor. >> it's not one of my favorite teams, but it's really, really fun to watch, and that's the new york jets. coach ryan, he's got a problem. he has three quarterbacks, sanchez, he's got tim tebow, he's got another guy. he can't decide who their quarterback is going to be. that's the same problem republicans are having. romney's gone, but he's still in the background. we have mcconnell and we have boehner. who is the quarterback, mr. president? who is the quarterback? >> there's s
. >> an added wrinkle to the fiscal cliff talks is the debt ceiling, with the government on pace to reach its borrowing limit early next year. the white house stated its position on the 14th amendment, which some theory rise is a way for the president to raise the debt limit independently, should republicans attempt to use it as a negotiating tool. >> i can say that this administration does not believe that the 14th amendment gives the president the power to ignore the debt ceiling,...
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according to a new government report jails in the u.s. could handle guantanamo bay detainees. the remains 166 detainees could be safely held in the u.s. six defense department prisons and 98 justice department prisons could take the detainees. supporters say the move would save millions. those who oppose closing gitmo are worried about security concerns. >>> coming up, why nbc's first read team says tom cole's comments on the fiscal cliff were a huge favor to speaker john boehner. >>> plus, our news nation gut check. this congress is on track to becoming least productive class since the '40s. do you think the next congress will get anything more done? check us out on our news nation tumbler page. you'll find behind the scenes pictures you're looking for. newsnation.tumbler.com. [ female announcer ] a classic meatloaf recipe from stouffer's starts with ground beef, unions, and peppers baked in a ketchup glaze with savory gravy and mashed russet potatoes. what makes stouffer's meatloaf best of all? that moment you enjoy it at home. stouffer's. let's fix dinner. >>> president oba
according to a new government report jails in the u.s. could handle guantanamo bay detainees. the remains 166 detainees could be safely held in the u.s. six defense department prisons and 98 justice department prisons could take the detainees. supporters say the move would save millions. those who oppose closing gitmo are worried about security concerns. >>> coming up, why nbc's first read team says tom cole's comments on the fiscal cliff were a huge favor to speaker john boehner....
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to have good government. but they do want efficient government and they want to make sure they're watching out for their tax dollars. they do want medicare, social security. they want those programs. they just want us to be fiscally responsible and move this country forward. i think it was a big ideological shift, again, and it's our job now to work with each other to get this country past the financial and to work on the issues americans sent us to do. >> you mentioned the fiscal cliff and i want to ask you about it. president obama even in his p - proposal yesterday had entitlement cuts including to medicare. you have in the past been resistant to cutting entit entitlements. does the result of the election -- i've heard many people on the democratic side say, look, we won. we don't need to make concess n concessions to republicans on entitlements. we can raise the top rates without making these concessions. do you think the president is even in this first proposal giving away too much on the entitlement sid
to have good government. but they do want efficient government and they want to make sure they're watching out for their tax dollars. they do want medicare, social security. they want those programs. they just want us to be fiscally responsible and move this country forward. i think it was a big ideological shift, again, and it's our job now to work with each other to get this country past the financial and to work on the issues americans sent us to do. >> you mentioned the fiscal cliff...
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on this question of big government. you'll hear what we want is small government, right, small enough as is our joke, on a transvaginal probe as we saw in the context of bob mcdonnell. yet, this blew me away. the quinnipiac poll off bob mcdonnell's approval rating. he's actually doing quite well with women, quite well with african-americans, quite well with young people. this is the guy who proposed the transvaginal ultrasound procedures in virginia. am i missing something here? >> voters are not -- again, that whole single issue, you can't zero in on onish eye. i'm a little biased, he is my governor. i will give that caveat. think of the end of the day. to your point, we have to be much broader from an optics and a tone standpoint. that's obvious. those pictures speak a thousand words. to all due respect, there are very credible women and minorities within a party, within the ranks that we should elevate very credible, white men and others that we should also elevate through the ranks. i think again, they do well becau
on this question of big government. you'll hear what we want is small government, right, small enough as is our joke, on a transvaginal probe as we saw in the context of bob mcdonnell. yet, this blew me away. the quinnipiac poll off bob mcdonnell's approval rating. he's actually doing quite well with women, quite well with african-americans, quite well with young people. this is the guy who proposed the transvaginal ultrasound procedures in virginia. am i missing something here? >> voters...
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can they govern this country? the offer made this morning, the challenge i have with it, this is no different than the offer that was made six months ago or a years ago from my friends in washington from the president. so as much as -- but understand, you had republicans also in washington who wanted to do a deal. the speaker started off saying we can go with new revenue and give a real deal. now, the president, tim geithner, others are smart people. and i hope and trust they know what they're doing. but if i'm reading this this morning in memphis, tennessee, in pensacola, florida, i don't have a lot of confidence that progress is being made. if i'm a business owner or if i'm a voter or if i work for a large business anywhere in the country. that's what concerns me about this. >> i'm giving both sides the benefit of the doubt that they're going to make this deadline. i can't imagine they would want to make the faith in washington plunge even deeper than it already is. having said that, sam -- >> we're a step close
can they govern this country? the offer made this morning, the challenge i have with it, this is no different than the offer that was made six months ago or a years ago from my friends in washington from the president. so as much as -- but understand, you had republicans also in washington who wanted to do a deal. the speaker started off saying we can go with new revenue and give a real deal. now, the president, tim geithner, others are smart people. and i hope and trust they know what they're...
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they go on the government payroll, and if they stay a couple of weeks employers replace them. they put somebody else on the payroll. there were ordinarily hourly workers who didn't get to work and filed for unemployment, but by and by this is not an unemployment creator. >> you know, jared, i have a question for you here. first, i do want to mention a little detail from the report. the job creation numbers for october and september were revised downward. the obvious answer is the books were cooked by a chicago guys. if you want to offer an apology to jack welch, i'll let you do that. >> i decidedly do not. what's your question, sir? >> it's an open invitation. >> the serious question i have for you is i know this is something you've been looking at and writing, and it's the effect of long-term high unemployment like we've been having on wages. can you tell us what you see there? >> i will. i will. let me underscore one point below that. this is not a stellar jobs report. you mentioned the downward provision. the decline in the unemployment rate didn't come because of more jobs
they go on the government payroll, and if they stay a couple of weeks employers replace them. they put somebody else on the payroll. there were ordinarily hourly workers who didn't get to work and filed for unemployment, but by and by this is not an unemployment creator. >> you know, jared, i have a question for you here. first, i do want to mention a little detail from the report. the job creation numbers for october and september were revised downward. the obvious answer is the books...
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it is time to govern. this election was a mandate for solutions. it was a mandate for consensus and compromise. house democrats have already said we would compromise. we want to get to higher ground with the republicans. i hope that speaker boehner will also see the handwriting on the wall and enforcing discipline in his own caucus and try and meet us in a compromise that reduces spending smartly, that pays down our deficit, that protects the middle class and that grows this economy again. we can do this if he is willing to compromise. today, he said, once again, he is not willing to compromise. >> here we go, round 14 or whatever it is. congressman steve israel, great to have you with us tonight. thanks so much. >>> the republican smear campaign against ambassador, susan rice, continues as more senators pile on. karen finney weighs in on what's the next best move then? the time is now to find out why the new push for immigration reform is making republicans very uncomfortable. stay with us. >>> susan rice has done a great job as our ambassador to
it is time to govern. this election was a mandate for solutions. it was a mandate for consensus and compromise. house democrats have already said we would compromise. we want to get to higher ground with the republicans. i hope that speaker boehner will also see the handwriting on the wall and enforcing discipline in his own caucus and try and meet us in a compromise that reduces spending smartly, that pays down our deficit, that protects the middle class and that grows this economy again. we...
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government works now. and why a man such as himself might want a particular job in washington at a time like this. listen to this part of the tape. this is where general petraeus makes his argument for why in particular running the cia would be a really good job to get. >> an awful lot of what we do in the future, believe it or not in libya right now, perhaps, is with that organization can do. we're going to be retrenching militarily. again, you're going to take big budget cuts and that's going to be all about -- it's going to be the post -- sort of the early 1990s kind of stuff. >> it will be the "peace dividend." >> the other folks on the other hand will be in a growth industry in our intelligence community. going to have to be. >> general petraeus telling fox news in this meeting he would be happy not just being named chairman of the joint chiefs, but with the cia director job because they are the same sized jobs or at least they are going to be. arguing that the future of national security in the unite
government works now. and why a man such as himself might want a particular job in washington at a time like this. listen to this part of the tape. this is where general petraeus makes his argument for why in particular running the cia would be a really good job to get. >> an awful lot of what we do in the future, believe it or not in libya right now, perhaps, is with that organization can do. we're going to be retrenching militarily. again, you're going to take big budget cuts and that's...
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but that said, it's the chinese central government that is calling in the u.s. national park service to say, help us figure out how to do this, help us figure out how to run these parks. so you have the national park in the story which is probably the best example of a preserved area. snow capped peaks, turquoise lakes, bamboo forests, oak forests. no one lives in the park which is not true of most preserved areas of china. there's no energy exploration allowed which is also not common. >> skiing with siberian tigers, kind of like doing a show with mika every day? >> i will not answer that question without it here. condi nast, kevin doyle. thank you for bringing some good news on the requiremental front out of china. god knows over the past 20 years they have needed to turn the corner. it sounds like they're starting the do that. we appreciate you being with us. coming up next, business before the bell with brian shactman. keep it right here on "morning joe." tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 let's talk about low-cost investing. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 at schwab, we're committe
but that said, it's the chinese central government that is calling in the u.s. national park service to say, help us figure out how to do this, help us figure out how to run these parks. so you have the national park in the story which is probably the best example of a preserved area. snow capped peaks, turquoise lakes, bamboo forests, oak forests. no one lives in the park which is not true of most preserved areas of china. there's no energy exploration allowed which is also not common....
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there is a sense of a balance between government and the govern, and that's the good news. the not-so-good news or the big question mark is whether they can take that general attitude and translate into a political arrangement that has some stability and legitimacy. and what we've seen is that hasn't happened yet, and that's the thing that's playing out. and we don't have a lot of influence over it. we can basically say -- we can incentivize them to do some of the right things, conditioning economic aid from the imf or the united states on pluralism and something that looks like a democratic process. but at the end of the day, egyptians are going to have to work it out, and it's going to be awfully important because people should never forget, this is a quarter to a third of the arab world, and cairo is one of the great centers of the arab and islamic world. what happened here is repercussions that go far beyond the borders of egypt. >> no doubt about it, they are the leader of the arab world. mika, also fascinating just to look at what's going on to see that the army, whic
there is a sense of a balance between government and the govern, and that's the good news. the not-so-good news or the big question mark is whether they can take that general attitude and translate into a political arrangement that has some stability and legitimacy. and what we've seen is that hasn't happened yet, and that's the thing that's playing out. and we don't have a lot of influence over it. we can basically say -- we can incentivize them to do some of the right things, conditioning...
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>> i think the elections have cons 0 againsts and the electorate has chosen divided government. they expect compromise and expect it from both sides. i don't think republicans should move on tax increases without significant movement on entitlements. >> you want to get something in return but go ahead and offer it. and right now they're not offering it. >> in order to get something done, people expect to get something done. both sides have to come to the middle. elections have consequences. both sides are going to have to give. right now i think you need to see significant reform on entitlements. >> maggie, who should own the entitlement plan, though? i do feel like we are -- we know a plan will get done, right? there's a small deal that punts us and we have the debt ceiling, or there is the big deal that maybe actually provides some relief. the big deal, who should open the entitlement? you do it, mrmt. and they're going, whoa, whoa, whoa, i'm not having this fight with my own base. >> i think that's the problem, right? in terms of who should own it. neither side, and i think t
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government sununu said democrats, quote, aggressively got out the base of their base. the base of their base that's dependent, to a great extent, economically on got policy and government programs, seeming to echo governor romney's 47% remarks. that same evening paul ryan appeared to reject governor sununu's comments, though he didn't address them directly. >> these attempts to divide americans into our voters and their voters, let's be really clear, republicans must steer far clear of that trap. >> joining me now, cnbc contributor tony frat owe and former white house deputy press secretary under president george w. bush and managing partner at hamilton place strategies kiki mclean, senior adviser to the 2008 hillary clinton presidential campaign. good morning. >> good morning. >> tony, do republicans sit back and wish governor sununu would quit talking? >> not only is it offensive to a large part of the lack trat, it happens to be wrong. republicans did very well and in fact governor romney did very well among lower income voters. so it's wrong but we shouldn't be tal
government sununu said democrats, quote, aggressively got out the base of their base. the base of their base that's dependent, to a great extent, economically on got policy and government programs, seeming to echo governor romney's 47% remarks. that same evening paul ryan appeared to reject governor sununu's comments, though he didn't address them directly. >> these attempts to divide americans into our voters and their voters, let's be really clear, republicans must steer far clear of...
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. >> i don't know much about the government. is that a good sign if they make a proposal? >> when you do that to me, i know you're not taking me seriously, right? >> sometimes getting really stupid offers, also not polite. >>> plus, an update on the condition of the former president george h.w. bush. he had a health scare in houston yesterday. we're going to tell you how he's doing this morning. >>> but first let's get to the news live at 5:30 here at 30 rock in new york city. this morning, president obama departs to pennsylvania where he will continue his campaign sales pitch on how to solve the country's fiscal challenges. yesterday treasury secretary tim geithner met with republicans to unveil the white house's budget proposal which includes $1.6 trillion in new tax revenue over ten years as well as $50 billion in additional stimulus spending. with limited details on spending cuts, the gop's reaction, less than encouraging. senator mitch mcconnell reportedly burst into laughter while geithner was in the middle of outlining obama's plan. and house speaker john boehner wh
. >> i don't know much about the government. is that a good sign if they make a proposal? >> when you do that to me, i know you're not taking me seriously, right? >> sometimes getting really stupid offers, also not polite. >>> plus, an update on the condition of the former president george h.w. bush. he had a health scare in houston yesterday. we're going to tell you how he's doing this morning. >>> but first let's get to the news live at 5:30 here at 30 rock...
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you cut into state and local governments. you cut into a whole bunch of home mortgage. >> what about the buffett proposal? >> the buffett proposal is a great idea. the buffett proposal is a kind of no-brainer. >> how much does it raise? >> $160 billion over ten years. it's a piece of the puzzle. i don't think they believe honestly that the math works to get to $1.2 trillion. >> let's also talk about the reality of leadership, where it's working and where it's not. the president did campaign on raising rates, he won the election. he can say i ran on this. he's still running on that, effectively. what he's not -- if he spent as much time on saying we have a spending problem and here's how we'll attack it, explaining the spending caps passed last year, nobody knows what's in that, as he does about #my2k on twitter. i don't think we're seeing that right now. >> to your point, the president was criticized for passing on taxes in the rich in the past. i think it's a fair line in the sand to draw. but having said that, when you have
you cut into state and local governments. you cut into a whole bunch of home mortgage. >> what about the buffett proposal? >> the buffett proposal is a great idea. the buffett proposal is a kind of no-brainer. >> how much does it raise? >> $160 billion over ten years. it's a piece of the puzzle. i don't think they believe honestly that the math works to get to $1.2 trillion. >> let's also talk about the reality of leadership, where it's working and where it's not....
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they are against taxes because they think it fuels government, and they're against government. they're against compromise, particularly against compromise with this particular president for a whole host of reasons. and we have the same dynamic we had back in 2011 when john boehner i think left to his own devices would cut a deal within five minutes with the president -- >> let's talk about -- we disagree about the importance of the cliff. i think it's damn serious business because who knows what the world is going to react -- >> the market is not going to like it. >> we don't know. forget the market. the world economy -- my question is would the republican party like to go over the cliff hanging onto that 2% of rich people and say that's why they did it? can they live with themselves if they do that? >> in some ways the politics for boehner becomes easier, i don't like calling it a cliff, after you go down the slope or whatever you want to call it. >> why? >> because if nothing happens between now and the end of the year, all the tax cuts, poof, they disappear. you come back th
they are against taxes because they think it fuels government, and they're against government. they're against compromise, particularly against compromise with this particular president for a whole host of reasons. and we have the same dynamic we had back in 2011 when john boehner i think left to his own devices would cut a deal within five minutes with the president -- >> let's talk about -- we disagree about the importance of the cliff. i think it's damn serious business because who...
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place would be the best thing we can do for our economy, which would also bring revenue to the federal government. >> there's that word certainty, which we would fully understand. congresswoman, if there is not a deal reached, would you characterize that as a massive failure on the part of congress? in fact, both sides? >> yeah, i believe we either are going to succeed together or fail together. and i go back to the model from president reagan and tip o'neill in the early '80s. as they look at tax reform as well as these entitlement programs, that's the approach we need today. proven that it can be done. and we need president obama to come to the table, provide that leadership, the republicans are willing. speaker boehner is ready today. let's get the job done. >> all right. congresswoman kathy mcmorris rodgers. thank you for coming on the show. come back, glad you're there in the negotiations talking to everybody. >> eugene robinson, final thoughts this block? >> well, you know, actually congress and the president have agreed on a huge deficit reduction package. it's called the fiscal cliff. so,
place would be the best thing we can do for our economy, which would also bring revenue to the federal government. >> there's that word certainty, which we would fully understand. congresswoman, if there is not a deal reached, would you characterize that as a massive failure on the part of congress? in fact, both sides? >> yeah, i believe we either are going to succeed together or fail together. and i go back to the model from president reagan and tip o'neill in the early '80s. as...
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our government again is reported to be moving to recognize this more unified opposition. the fact that it exists is partially a credit to secretary of state clinton, but also to egypt and other neighbors who have pushed for this to happen. its headquarters is currently in cairo, by the way. and so if this happens and if the international community focuses i think there is finally a chance of a -- not just a way for the end of this -- the assad regime to be achieved, but for a responsible government to move into its place. >> and now let me ask you, move you to the israeli/u.s. relationship, because israel has now taken one more step, first last week as we reported they took a key step in deciding to build this e-1 settlement which if they were to proceed, is a red line, i know that the british have warned them that they have crossed a red line, that israel should not even tactically be taking this step to further push down abbas after the hamas victory recently, and by taking this line it would make it impossible to ever have a palestinian state because it would be dividi
our government again is reported to be moving to recognize this more unified opposition. the fact that it exists is partially a credit to secretary of state clinton, but also to egypt and other neighbors who have pushed for this to happen. its headquarters is currently in cairo, by the way. and so if this happens and if the international community focuses i think there is finally a chance of a -- not just a way for the end of this -- the assad regime to be achieved, but for a responsible...
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these are guys who went to congress not to limit government but to stop it. so what are you going to do? we've got five democrats, five republicans who range from dick durbin of illinois, great progressive democrat, and coburn of oklahoma, a progressive conservative, and five dems, five republicans, one independent, that's a super majority. and for god's sake, the reason we were so successful is we effectively pissed off everybody in america. >> congratulations, sir. kudos. kudos to you. >> good morning. it's thursday, december 6th. welcome to "morning joe." with us on set, msnbc political analyst, former democratic congressman, harold ford jr. >> mr. professor. >> good morning. >> professor. >> and we have former treasury official and "morning joe" economic analyst, steve rattner. >> financier. >> rattner is here. i like -- and we have to go back to that. it's the truth. >> it is! >> money is money. >> in washington, msnbc and "time" senior political analyst, mark halperin. >> we saw him on the streets of d.c. yesterday, and he was very cagey. >> the mean st
these are guys who went to congress not to limit government but to stop it. so what are you going to do? we've got five democrats, five republicans who range from dick durbin of illinois, great progressive democrat, and coburn of oklahoma, a progressive conservative, and five dems, five republicans, one independent, that's a super majority. and for god's sake, the reason we were so successful is we effectively pissed off everybody in america. >> congratulations, sir. kudos. kudos to you....
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government for one hour and 36 minutes. i thought that was interesting. by the way, one thing that all of us have learned, especially the national media, as we've been calling this dearborn, missouri, we're wrong. it's dearburn. they're a little upset that we're pronouncing the name of their town wrong. >> teach me this again. dearburn? >> reporter: you've got to say it like mush in your mouth. it's not dearborn, it's dearburn. >> dearburn, missouri. >> reporter: there you go. i think we got it. >> kerry sanders there to meet the hills coming up and a very lucky 6-year-old who will be probably getting a pony for christmas, i'm sure. thanks. >>> just a half hour from now, president obama is expected to give remarks from pennsylvania. it's the next step in his campaign to generate public support for his plan to tackle the fiscal cliff. now, while at a toy manufacturing company, the president is expected to play hardball. white house official telling nbc news he'll call on congressional republicans to stop holding the middle class hostage. traveling with the
government for one hour and 36 minutes. i thought that was interesting. by the way, one thing that all of us have learned, especially the national media, as we've been calling this dearborn, missouri, we're wrong. it's dearburn. they're a little upset that we're pronouncing the name of their town wrong. >> teach me this again. dearburn? >> reporter: you've got to say it like mush in your mouth. it's not dearborn, it's dearburn. >> dearburn, missouri. >> reporter: there...